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Who is James Woods?
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Pilotiin
2011-08-16 01:10:53 UTC
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Not living in the US, I have no idea who James Woods is supposed to be.
Can someone help? We've heard of MLK: we're not that backwards.
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Wiseguy
2011-08-16 03:36:49 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Not living in the US, I have no idea who James Woods is supposed to be.
Can someone help? We've heard of MLK: we're not that backwards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Woods
FG Fan
2011-08-16 21:03:01 UTC
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 01:10:53 +0000 (UTC), Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Not living in the US, I have no idea who James Woods is supposed to be.
Can someone help? We've heard of MLK: we're not that backwards.
Does Google not work there?
Pilotiin
2011-08-16 21:27:36 UTC
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Post by FG Fan
Does Google not work there?
Yes, but there's more than one James Woods.

James A. Woods (born 1979), Canadian actor
James P. Woods (1868–1948), American politician, U.S. Representative from
Virginia
James Park Woods (1886–1963), Australian soldier and recipient of the
Victoria Cross
Jimmy Woods (born 1934), American jazz musician
Jim Woods, American sportscaster
James Woods (footballer), English footballer who played for Burnley in the
1880s


We're getting three FGs tonight, with no commercial breaks:

16 Aug 2011 23:15
BBC Three Series 8
Brian Griffin's House of Payne
16/21. Lois encourages Brian to submit a pilot script to a network, but
things don't go to plan. (R)

16 Aug 2011 23:40
BBC Three Series 4
Jungle Love
13/30. Chris runs away to South America, where he assimilates into a tribal
culture. (R)

17 Aug 2011 00:00
BBC Three Series 4
PTV
14/30. Peter creates his own TV station, broadcasting edgy programming from
the Griffin home. (R)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mh4j/episodes/upcoming

Woopie.
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FG Fan
2011-08-17 02:31:45 UTC
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:27:36 +0000 (UTC), Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Post by FG Fan
Does Google not work there?
Yes, but there's more than one James Woods.
James A. Woods (born 1979), Canadian actor
James P. Woods (1868–1948), American politician, U.S. Representative from
Virginia
James Park Woods (1886–1963), Australian soldier and recipient of the
Victoria Cross
Jimmy Woods (born 1934), American jazz musician
Jim Woods, American sportscaster
James Woods (footballer), English footballer who played for Burnley in the
1880s
Looks like, no, it does not work. This James Woods should place
higher on the list than a long-dead US politician. He's an American
actor who grew up in Rhode Island.
Johny B Good
2011-08-18 01:31:07 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by FG Fan
Does Google not work there?
Yes, but there's more than one James Woods.
James A. Woods (born 1979), Canadian actor
James P. Woods (1868=E2=80=931948), American politician, U.S. Represen=
tative from
Post by Pilotiin
Virginia
James Park Woods (1886=E2=80=931963), Australian soldier and recipient=
of the
Post by Pilotiin
Victoria Cross
Jimmy Woods (born 1934), American jazz musician
Jim Woods, American sportscaster
James Woods (footballer), English footballer who played for Burnley in=
=
Post by Pilotiin
the
1880s
16 Aug 2011 23:15
BBC Three Series 8
Brian Griffin's House of Payne
16/21. Lois encourages Brian to submit a pilot script to a network, bu=
t
Post by Pilotiin
things don't go to plan. (R)
episode 7ACX13
Post by Pilotiin
16 Aug 2011 23:40
BBC Three Series 4
Jungle Love
13/30. Chris runs away to South America, where he assimilates into a =
tribal
culture. (R)
episode 4ACX16
Post by Pilotiin
17 Aug 2011 00:00
BBC Three Series 4
PTV
14/30. Peter creates his own TV station, broadcasting edgy programming=
=
Post by Pilotiin
from
the Griffin home. (R)
episode 4ACX17
Post by Pilotiin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mh4j/episodes/upcoming
Woopie.
Unfortunately, the BBC's series and episodes numbering are pretty well=
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meaningless outside of the BBC itself. The episode production codes I've=
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appended have an unambiguous worldwide meaning which will be much more =

useful in this NG.

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Regards JB Good
Captain Infinity
2011-08-18 19:10:35 UTC
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Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
Unfortunately, the BBC's series and episodes numbering are pretty well
meaningless outside of the BBC itself. The episode production codes I've
appended have an unambiguous worldwide meaning which will be much more
useful in this NG.
But not nearly as useful as the episode titles, because those are written
in intelligible English, whereas the profuction codes are written in
meaningless combinations of letters and numbers and require you to have a
database at your fingertips in order to decode them.


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Captain Infinity
Wiseguy
2011-08-19 00:58:04 UTC
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Post by Captain Infinity
Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
Unfortunately, the BBC's series and episodes numbering are pretty well
meaningless outside of the BBC itself. The episode production codes
I've appended have an unambiguous worldwide meaning which will be
much more useful in this NG.
But not nearly as useful as the episode titles, because those are
written in intelligible English, whereas the profuction codes are
written in meaningless combinations of letters and numbers and require
you to have a database at your fingertips in order to decode them.
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Captain Infinity
They're not completely meaningless since the first number gives the
season* and the last two numbers give the production order.

But I agree titles are better.

*For some reason FOX didn't start the 5th season after the 13-episode
Spring-Summer 2005 4th season but let the production numbers go up to
4ACX35 for the 2005-06 season when no scripted series today does 35
episodes in one year.

This is how it should have been done:

4ACX01-13 correct
4ACX14-35 should be 5ACX01-22
all 5ACX should be 6ACX
all 6ACX should be 7ACX. etc.
Tony Harding
2011-09-06 03:18:11 UTC
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Post by Captain Infinity
Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
Unfortunately, the BBC's series and episodes numbering are pretty well
meaningless outside of the BBC itself. The episode production codes I've
appended have an unambiguous worldwide meaning which will be much more
useful in this NG.
But not nearly as useful as the episode titles, because those are written
in intelligible English, whereas the profuction codes are written in
meaningless combinations of letters and numbers and require you to have a
database at your fingertips in order to decode them.
I beg to differ, the production codes tell us much without any database
at all, namely the central alpha part, "ACX", designates the Family Guy
show, the numeric prefix tells us the season and the also numeric suffix
tells us the sequence of that show within the season, noting that this
is not the broadcast sequence. What is doesn't reveal is the episode's
title (which would be nice, of course; but it's subject to revision,
whereas the existing production code is not, i.e., 9ACX13 will always be
9ACX13[1].

Tony

1. The alpha piece for Futurama is "ACV", and the episodes are
designated like FG, e.g., 1ACV01, 1ACV02, ... 9ACV11, ETC.
Wiseguy
2011-09-06 05:38:48 UTC
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Post by Tony Harding
Post by Captain Infinity
Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
Unfortunately, the BBC's series and episodes numbering are pretty well
meaningless outside of the BBC itself. The episode production codes
I've appended have an unambiguous worldwide meaning which will be
much more useful in this NG.
But not nearly as useful as the episode titles, because those are
written in intelligible English, whereas the profuction codes are
written in meaningless combinations of letters and numbers and
require you to have a database at your fingertips in order to decode
them.
I beg to differ, the production codes tell us much without any
database at all, namely the central alpha part, "ACX", designates the
Family Guy show, the numeric prefix tells us the season and the also
numeric suffix tells us the sequence of that show within the season,
noting that this is not the broadcast sequence. What is doesn't reveal
is the episode's title (which would be nice, of course; but it's
subject to revision, whereas the existing production code is not,
i.e., 9ACX13 will always be 9ACX13[1].
Tony
1. The alpha piece for Futurama is "ACV", and the episodes are
designated like FG, e.g., 1ACV01, 1ACV02, ... 9ACV11, ETC.
Pretty much my response sometime ago.
Johny B Good
2011-09-08 01:51:09 UTC
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Post by Tony Harding
Post by Captain Infinity
Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
Unfortunately, the BBC's series and episodes numbering are pretty well
meaningless outside of the BBC itself. The episode production codes I've
appended have an unambiguous worldwide meaning which will be much more
useful in this NG.
But not nearly as useful as the episode titles, because those are written
in intelligible English, whereas the production codes are written in
meaningless combinations of letters and numbers and require you to have a
database at your fingertips in order to decode them.
I beg to differ, the production codes tell us much without any database
at all, namely the central alpha part, "ACX", designates the Family Guy
show, the numeric prefix tells us the season and the also numeric suffix
tells us the sequence of that show within the season, noting that this
is not the broadcast sequence. What is doesn't reveal is the episode's
title (which would be nice, of course; but it's subject to revision,
whereas the existing production code is not, i.e., 9ACX13 will always be
9ACX13[1].
Tony
1. The alpha piece for Futurama is "ACV", and the episodes are
designated like FG, e.g., 1ACV01, 1ACV02, ... 9ACV11, ETC.
I was going to reply to the critique but I couldn't be arsed to argue the
"Bleedin' Obvious"(tm), expecting someone else to chip in. I didn't
realise I would have to wait so long for such a supporting reply to
arrive. ;-)

I suppose I _aught_ to have responded to the:-

"and require you to have a database at your fingertips in order to decode
them." statement with the obvious one that such a resource is available on
the internet to anyone who cares to search.

Ever since I acquired my first DVB-T tuner adapter for my PC, some 6
years back, I've been recording TV shows of interest to _me_ onto computer
hard drives (note; NOT using a "PVR") so using a meaningful file naming
convention for these files is of considerable importance.

I let the scheduled (and the occasional non-scheduled) recordings rely on
the automated naming mechanism of the TV recording software which is
simply based on the date and time to the nearest second of the start of
the recording.

The recordings only receive a meaningful name with the essential post
recording processing required to clean up the on-the-fly TS to PS
converted MPG stream files and to top and tail the padding (and, in the
case of Channel Four's broadcasts of the "The Simpsons", slice and dice
and recombine to eliminate the commercials).

Although I could find the episode names for The Simpsons episodes from
the Andrew Flegg website (bleb.org) if I was arsed enough to sully my eyes
with a commercial broadcaster's program listing, I don't. I simply leave
the laptop to record the 5 episodes a week output from Channel Four and
discover the names of as many as the 20 or 30 episodes recorded over the
past 4 to 6 weeks and simply rename them with the product code before
saving them as raw files ready to be used as replacements to any previous
episodes that Channel Four had damaged.

What I've noticed with Channel Four's "The Simpsons" playout strategy is
their sly way of watering down the new (to the UK) episodes with endless
repeats from earlier seasons mixed in amongst the new. In some cases, I've
collected as many as 4 repeats of previously recorded episodes. Most
repeats are still only at the 2 or 3 mark.

The importance of the production codes in this context is that they
provide unique filenames for each episode (with obvious single letter
extensions to differentiate the repeats) which I might, one day, get
around to appending episode titles to.

By the time the BBC started to broadcast the Family Guy and the American
Dad! series, I had started to add their published titles to the production
code based naming convention I had already established with the "The
Simpsons" recordings whenever possible. If I left it more than a day
before processing the raw files, I couldn't check the bleb.org listings
for such information since it didn't go back further than the previous day.

I think, initially, I simply waited for the inevitable repeat to come
round and then chose the least vandalised broadcast version as a keeper to
be saved with the full episode title as the last part of the filename, eg
"Family Guy 1ACX01 Death Has a Shadow.mpg" for the very first episode.

Eventually, the penny finally dropped that I could search the internet on
phrases such as "Family Guy episode listings" and find such databases
which allowed me to fill in any blanks,
not only for cartoon series but also for a lot of drama series as well.

The naming convention I use for non-cartoon series is based on the
following convention:-

series name n-n 20110908 episode name(if applicable or even available)

eg "New Tricks 10-10 20110905 Tiger Tiger.mpg" or "HIGN4U 7-9 20081208
David Mitchell.mpg"

The first example is self explanatory but the second might only be
obvious to a UK fan of the very long running "Have I Got News For You"
series. I thought a web search might fail on the "HIGN4U" part but it
seems to only be the BBC who are incapable of imagination as displayed
with their reference of #HIGNFY (presumably a web search term) that's
shown at the end of the intro sequence to each episode in their recent
series.

I usually use abbreviation for series names when it turns out that the
individual episode names display a tendency to excessive wordiness. In the
case of cartoon series such as Family guy and American Dad!, the
production code replaces the episode "number - total episodes and date
time digits" part of the name used with non-cartoon series since it
provides a unique identifier key (and the actual broadcast date does not
have the importance it normally has with other material). Also, such key
identification is embedded within the end credits of each cartoon episode,
a feature that is, afaict, totally absent in all other genres.

Assuming the broadcaster doesn't vandalise or truncate the end credit
sequence, it's possible to identify each episode from the broadcast itself
without reliance on a proposed schedule listing which can occasionally be
subject to changes made at the broadcaster's whim.

IOW, as a unique identifier key, you couldn't do any better than to use
the production code itself.
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Regards JB Good
Captain Infinity
2011-09-08 03:09:38 UTC
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Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
"and require you to have a database at your fingertips in order to decode
them." statement with the obvious one that such a resource is available on
the internet to anyone who cares to search.
Why would anyone want to go to the trouble of having to search for such a
thing when the episode title tells you all you need to know?


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Captain Infinity
Captain Infinity
2011-09-08 03:11:24 UTC
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Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
Although I could find the episode names for The Simpsons episodes from
the Andrew Flegg website (bleb.org) if I was arsed enough to sully my eyes
with a commercial broadcaster's program listing, I don't. I simply leave
the laptop to record the 5 episodes a week output from Channel Four and
discover the names of as many as the 20 or 30 episodes recorded over the
past 4 to 6 weeks and simply rename them with the product code before
saving them as raw files ready to be used as replacements to any previous
episodes that Channel Four had damaged
What a fucking pain in the ass. Do you also enjoy hitting yourself in the
head when your headache starts to fade?


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Captain Infinity
Captain Infinity
2011-09-08 03:13:31 UTC
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Once Upon A Time,
Post by Johny B Good
The naming convention I use for non-cartoon series is based on the
following convention:-
series name n-n 20110908 episode name(if applicable or even available)
eg "New Tricks 10-10 20110905 Tiger Tiger.mpg" or "HIGN4U 7-9 20081208
David Mitchell.mpg"
The first example is self explanatory but the second might only be
obvious to a UK fan of the very long running "Have I Got News For You"
series. I thought a web search might fail on the "HIGN4U" part but it
seems to only be the BBC who are incapable of imagination as displayed
with their reference of #HIGNFY (presumably a web search term) that's
shown at the end of the intro sequence to each episode in their recent
series.
Insane. Absolutely insane.


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Captain Infinity

Don Del Grande
2011-08-17 00:34:58 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Not living in the US, I have no idea who James Woods is supposed to be.
Can someone help? We've heard of MLK: we're not that backwards.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000249/

And in case you get reruns where Chris is still in junior high school:

http://www.buddycianci.com/

-- Don
Pilotiin
2011-08-17 01:14:14 UTC
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Post by Don Del Grande
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000249/
Thanks.

James Woods is ambidextrous: I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
Post by Don Del Grande
And in case you get reruns where Chris
Think we do. We get them all, but I don't know the difference between
junior and senior high schools. Connie must be at senior high school, with
17 year old Meg; presumably Chris runs off to South America frightened of
being a Freshman when elevated from junior to senior high?
Post by Don Del Grande
http://www.buddycianci.com/
You've got me. Rhode Island is not well known; for all I knew, when
Gillian said the capital is Rhode Island City, she could have been right.
Buddy Cianci's second stint as mayor ended when he was forced to resign
following his . . . he's an Italian then?

Apart from that Seth MacFarlane studied there, what is remarkable about
Rhode Island, which must be one of the smaller (and older) states?

While I have you, is the spirit of Massachusetts really the spirit of
America? Is this because Massachusetts has been significant throughout
American history, being, for example, where you started to take US
independence from the English/British?
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Captain Infinity
2011-08-17 02:02:52 UTC
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Once Upon A Time,
Post by Pilotiin
what is remarkable about
Rhode Island, which must be one of the smaller (and older) states?
Rhode Island is so small that when it first joined the Union all the bigger
states played "keep away" with its hat.


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Captain Infinity
Don Del Grande
2011-08-18 01:30:51 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Don Del Grande
And in case you get reruns where Chris
Think we do. We get them all, but I don't know the difference between
junior and senior high schools. Connie must be at senior high school, with
17 year old Meg; presumably Chris runs off to South America frightened of
being a Freshman when elevated from junior to senior high?
The quick version of how American schools work:

The first level is "elementary school", starting with a year of
"kindergarten" when you are about five or six years old (usually, the
kids turn six years old during, or just after, the school year,
between somewhere around September 1 and sometime in early June),
where they usually don't teach anything (it's mainly just to get kids
used to going to school), followed by "first grade", "second grade",
and so on. Some elementary schools stop at fourth grade, but most
include fifth, and some still have sixth. Each student has one
teacher for the entire year.

After that comes "junior high school", also called "middle school".
(Usually, if it includes sixth grade, it's "middle school", and if it
starts at seventh grade, it's "junior high school".) This is where
students start getting different teachers for different subjects - you
might have one hour of mathematics with one teacher, one of English
with another, one of science with a third, and so on. This usually
runs through eighth grade, although some go through ninth grade.

Next is high school, which is pretty much the same as junior high
school; after completing 12th grade, you graduate. (9th through 12th
grades are also called "freshman", "sophomore", "junior", and "senior"
years.) Say what you want about the education system in the USA, but
at least we don't have any of this "gap year" stuff; you are expected
to go from 12th grade straight into university.

-- Don
Pilotiin
2011-08-19 01:35:12 UTC
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Post by Don Del Grande
Say what you want about the education system in the USA, but
at least we don't have any of this "gap year" stuff; you are
expected to go from 12th grade straight into university.
Thank you.

Except many Amish American youngsters have Rumspringa?

British and American school education is reputed to be poor, though the US
and UK seem to share some of the world's best universities. Personally, I
have found standards of school education in Germany and especially Finland
impressive.

If one wants to knock US education, then asking Americans about foreign
countries is easy. Seth MacFarlane does a good job of London, with the odd
mistake (in British English, fanny is a woman's front bottom).
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George W Harris
2011-08-22 03:22:39 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:35:12 +0000 (UTC), Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Don Del Grande
Say what you want about the education system in the USA, but
at least we don't have any of this "gap year" stuff; you are
expected to go from 12th grade straight into university.
Thank you.
Except many Amish American youngsters have Rumspringa?
Amish comprise less than 0.1% of Americans, so not
really necessary to note. Rumspringa also doesn't necessarily
happen after graduation from high school.

--
"Doesn't the fact that there are *exactly* fifty states seem a little suspicious?"

George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'
Warren B.
2011-08-19 13:32:39 UTC
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After all of these years reading his postings on the newsgroups, I
never thought I'd be correcting Don on something, but as an elementary-
Post by Don Del Grande
The first level is "elementary school", starting with a year of
"kindergarten" when you are about five or six years old (usually, the
kids turn six years old during, or just after, the school year,
between somewhere around September 1 and sometime in early June),
where they usually don't teach anything (it's mainly just to get kids
used to going to school), followed by "first grade", "second grade",
and so on.
Within the last 15 years or so, pre-kindergarten became the new
kindergarten, and kindergarten became the new 1st grade. Pre-K is now
about getting kids used to going to school, and kindergartners learn
the alphabet-- many are writing full sentences-- and arithmetic.
It's quite remarkable, and makes me wonder why we weren't doing it at
that age (I'm 38).

The practical problem is that pre-K (and K in some places) isn't
mandatory, so kids who don't attend pre-K or K are at an extreme
disadvantage when they get to 1st grade (socially and pedagogically,
respectively).

-- warren b.
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